Llama 3.1 8B vs Gemma 3 12B
Two open-weight models, head to head — task-by-task quality, memory needs, speed and license. Scores are 0-100 from public evaluations; speed and VRAM are computed for a common 12GB card.
Verdict
The Gemma 3 12B is the stronger all-rounder (78 vs 71 average), but pick Llama 3.1 8B for chat and Gemma 3 12B for multilingual. Licenses differ: Llama 3.1 8B is Llama-3.1, Gemma 3 12B is Gemma.
Specs
| Llama 3.1 8B | Gemma 3 12B | |
|---|---|---|
| Parameters | 8B | 12B |
| Context | 128K | 128K |
| VRAM (Q4) | 6.4 GB | 9.2 GB |
| Speed on RTX 4070 | 77.2 tok/s | 50.7 tok/s |
| License | Llama-3.1 | Gemma |
| Released | 2024-07 | 2025-03 |
Task-by-task quality
coding
68
76
reasoning
70
78
math
66
74
chat
78
82
multilingual
76
86
agent
66
70
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Frequently asked
Is Llama 3.1 8B or Gemma 3 12B better?
Overall the Gemma 3 12B edges it on average quality (78 vs 71 across six task areas), but it's use-case dependent — Llama 3.1 8B leads on chat, while Gemma 3 12B leads on multilingual.
Which is better for coding, Llama 3.1 8B or Gemma 3 12B?
Gemma 3 12B — it scores 76/100 for coding vs 68/100.
Which needs more VRAM?
Gemma 3 12B is larger (12B vs 8B) and needs more VRAM. At Q4 they need about 6.4 GB and 9.2 GB respectively.
Which is faster?
On a 12GB RTX 4070 at Q4, Llama 3.1 8B runs at ~77.2 tok/s and Gemma 3 12B at ~50.7 tok/s.
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