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Phi-3.5 Mini 3.8B vs Qwen2.5 3B

Two open-weight models, head to head — task-by-task quality, memory needs, speed and license. Scores are 0-100 from public evaluations; speed and VRAM are computed for a common 12GB card.

Verdict

The Phi-3.5 Mini 3.8B is the stronger all-rounder (66 vs 60 average), but pick Phi-3.5 Mini 3.8B for math and Qwen2.5 3B for multilingual. Licenses differ: Phi-3.5 Mini 3.8B is MIT, Qwen2.5 3B is Qwen-Research.

Specs

Phi-3.5 Mini 3.8BQwen2.5 3B
Parameters3.8B3.1B
Context128K32K
VRAM (Q4)3.6 GB3.2 GB
Speed on RTX 4070157.6 tok/s185.8 tok/s
LicenseMITQwen-Research
Released2024-082024-09

Task-by-task quality

coding
62
56
reasoning
66
58
math
68
55
chat
70
68
multilingual
70
70
agent
58
52
Average6660
Phi-3.5 Mini 3.8BQwen2.5 3B

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Frequently asked

Is Phi-3.5 Mini 3.8B or Qwen2.5 3B better?

Overall the Phi-3.5 Mini 3.8B edges it on average quality (66 vs 60 across six task areas), but it's use-case dependent — Phi-3.5 Mini 3.8B leads on math, while Qwen2.5 3B leads on multilingual.

Which is better for coding, Phi-3.5 Mini 3.8B or Qwen2.5 3B?

Phi-3.5 Mini 3.8B — it scores 62/100 for coding vs 56/100.

Which needs more VRAM?

Phi-3.5 Mini 3.8B is larger (3.8B vs 3.1B) and needs more VRAM. At Q4 they need about 3.6 GB and 3.2 GB respectively.

Which is faster?

On a 12GB RTX 4070 at Q4, Phi-3.5 Mini 3.8B runs at ~157.6 tok/s and Qwen2.5 3B at ~185.8 tok/s.

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